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INNOCENCE ITSELF
THE CONFESSION - S02E02

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Did he say anything else?

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Yes.

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Yes, I'm coming. Goodbye.

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I thought I would no longer have
to iron more shirts.

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It has just been delivered.

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We need you to maintain it
in preventive detention.

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Attend the first interview...

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to make sure that
everything turns out well.

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So he turned himself in.

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Why?

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Maybe you want to end this,
and stop running away.

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He has spent his entire adult life on the run.

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It's not the first time.
He has multiple complaints.

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- Yes, but never for murder.
- You have to see it from another perspective.

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If he is innocent,
Why not give in and collaborate?

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- So, you think he didn't do it.
- I don't know. It's not my problem.

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The only thing we know is that
They are so convinced that...

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They accuse him, they issue an order
and they leak it to us.

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The police have been wrong before.
And besides, they are nervous.

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They know that he has committed more crimes.
And they know that we are going to investigate.

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Maybe they rushed...

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appearing to be proactive.

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What if he is guilty?

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What if he killed Sally Malone,
and he still gave himself up?

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Are you saying that
is he playing with us?

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It doesn't make sense.

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Maybe he thinks he's going to get away with it,
as always.

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He has always been free before.

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A serial scammer
wanted for murder...

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flee the scene,
disappears for hours,

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is wanted nationally
and international, and then...

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And then it's just delivered?

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Why?

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- Good morning.
- Good morning.

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I guess everyone is aware
of the latest events.

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An unusual arrest.

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It's not every day a suspect
arrives when we open...

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- and confesses to the receptionist.
- Officially, what is your situation?

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The charges were read
and their rights.

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- Officially arrested at 8:23.
- Lawyer?

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He was offered one,
but for now he doesn't want it.

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When is the hearing?

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Tomorrow morning.
We have 24 hours to file charges.

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- Did you find anything new?
- Yes, several complaints.

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Scams on women.
All cases closed.

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Good. It is not necessary
explain what that means.

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Dangerous subject.
Female victims. Sensitive material.

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Get ready for
the whole country and the media...

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tell us how we have
we do our job.

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Let's review what we have
from the crime scene.

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The first patrol arrived...

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right after his sister,
Rose Malone, call 999...

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saying that he had found
Sally lifeless in the pool.

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He said that the groom,
Tom Johannessen, he killed her.

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Blood was found on the stairs
and on the pool terrace.

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The house was freshly cleaned,

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what made it difficult
the analyzes of the Scientist.

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Good. Everyone is watching us.

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Whatever we do,
They are going to question us.

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The courts lately
They are increasingly demanding.

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Let's thank the press
for that.

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We will need at least
four weeks of preventive detention.

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We will interrogate Johannessen,
for your initial statement.

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Did you say he doesn't have a lawyer?

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He says he doesn't need it.

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You have a LinkedIn profile.

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He is a financial consultant,
trained at CBS.

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He has worked in several places.

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Skills...

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business development
and project development.

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Hello. I'm Nora Sand.
From Globalt.

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Is it about that demon?

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Is Claire home?

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Claire, you have a visitor.

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Good luck.

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Why do you think
Don't you want a lawyer?

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Some think that with a lawyer
They seem more guilty.

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Maybe it's that type.
I don't know.

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- Are we going to interrogate him anyway?
- Yes, of course.

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Will you do it?

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No.

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You will do it, Andreas.

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we need a
detailed confession.

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With that we will get four weeks
of prison. Everything will be fine.

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It's important.

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Yes.

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Give it another five minutes.

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<i>- Hello. I'm Camilla.</i>
- Hello. I'm Mathilde Lund from Globalt.

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I'm looking for a former employee.
Tom Johannessen.

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<i>- Can you wait a moment?</i>
- Yes, I hope.

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I understand, but I talked to him.
I meant you.

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<i>No, I don't think so.</i>

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Good. Yes, thank you.

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I have your resume, which says
who worked for you in 2018-19.

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- A consulting position.
<i>- Consulting?</i>

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- hello?
<i>- Grand Hotel. This is Kasper.</i>

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Hello. I'm Carl from Globalt.
They cut me off again.

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<i>- Good. Wait a moment.</i>
- Yes, okay. I'll wait.

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<i>I'm sorry. No idea,
but good luck with everything.</i>

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Thank you.

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Definitely not
worked for McKinsey.

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I never worked at �rsted.
CBS doesn't know him either.

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He applied for a place, but was not admitted.
He doesn't have a master's degree there.

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So what exactly does he have?

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<i>Hello. Yes...</i>

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I'm Andreas Jansson.

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This is the first interview
with defendant Tom Johannessen.

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You have been informed of your rights...

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and has decided that it is unnecessary
have a defense attorney present.

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Yes.

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Tom, I thought I'd start
with friday night,

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and then the weekend events
before you turned yourself in.

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I thought about starting from another time.

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<i>Good.</i>

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I know they have some
more archived cases.

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AND...

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He deceives women, he scams them...

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<i>I lie, I cheat and I manipulate.</i>

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And there is more than
that you already know.

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I'm not trying to excuse or justify it,

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but everything always
It has been in the same line...

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Yes.

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<i>Okay.</i>

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<i>Tom, can we talk about what happened?
that night in S�vang, 11?</i>

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It all started with an argument.

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With Sally things were always
a little unstable.

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He always felt
that something could explode.

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<i>It was as if
she would like to fight...</i>

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<i>He said I was...</i>

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<i>That he was unfaithful to him.
No...</i>

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<i>That I was only with her
for your money.</i>

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<i>To be honest,
It was partly true.</i>

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He followed me up the stairs.

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Yelling at me.

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He said all kinds of things.

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That was of no use.

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And then...

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<i>She was coming after me.</i>

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<i>I turned around.
It was a sudden movement.</i>

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And then...

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I think...

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I scared her.

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<i>So, she fell?</i>

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<i>Yes�.</i>

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<i>I only remember that there was...</i>

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a terrible noise.

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as if something
It would break inside.

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Y...

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<i>I know they don't have...</i>

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<i>You don't have to believe me.</i>

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<i>He fell down the stairs.</i>

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<i>When it was delivered this morning,</i>

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he said there was
killed his girlfriend.

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- That kills Sally Malone.
- Was...

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my fault

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Yo...

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She fell.

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I was honest with Silja.
That's why it hurt so much.

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Be honest, open up,
and then... nothing. Yes...

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�C�for contact�?

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I wrote about women
who had suffered abuse.

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Despu�s le leg� informa�n
about the group I led.

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He wrote, asking if he could
come and do interviews.

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- Some kind of support group?
- Yes, you could say it like that.

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It was my idea to start with the group.

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There were many women
looking for something...

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to hold on to.

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Something bigger.
Something to guide them.

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Are you referring to something spiritual?

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Yes.

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He helped me with the group.

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Tom?

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That's how he was.

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He became interested in
my spiritual path.

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He seemed genuinely interested.

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He got really involved and listened.

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Or maybe not.
That's what I believed.

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He was probably looking for opportunities.

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What kind of opportunities?

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I think a man like him...

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always looking for someone
or something to use.

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To abuse.

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How did you meet Tom?

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Purely by chance.

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we met
in line at a coffee shop.

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He told me something very nice.

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He was very open
and he seemed easy to talk to.

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Charming.

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I found it again
a few days later.

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We started talking,
We exchange numbers.

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Yes.

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You said I helped you
with the group.

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Yes. Got the places.

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He transported things.
Tables, chairs.

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Everything that was needed.

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He was the helpful man
that fascinated everyone.

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I thought I had met
to the man of my dreams.

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How stupid I was.

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Silja and Tom.

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Did they meet through you?

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Yes.

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- Did you know about them?
- No.

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At that time, I had no idea.

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Suddenly Tom left me.

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He left me with a huge mortgage
which he convinced me to take out.

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About six months later,
Silja contacted me again.

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He had done the same to her.

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That's when she discovered
who was a serial scammer.

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He started to investigate it.

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What happened to that investigation?

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Suddenly, I stopped hearing from her.

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No, she...

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That story sank her.

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Do you know what I think?

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I believe that evil exists,
like a real force.

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I think Tom is a demon
He's not even aware of what he's doing.

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It is just an instrument of evil.

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Unless you're one hundred percent pure,
you can't beat it.

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Before you face it, you have to know
who you are and who you want to be.

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If you are not pure and strong...

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Everything that comes into contact
with it it is contaminated. It gets stained.

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That's really evil.

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Darkness.

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That spreads.

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Sorry.

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-What will happen to him now?
- For now, he is detained.

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Surely the police
will put him in preventive detention.

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- So what do you have?
- Your statement is confusing.

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- "Confusing"?
- He's manipulative.

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Try to divert us from something,
confuse us.

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He confesses, then he blows it
like an accident.

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Good.

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There is no news yet
of the Scientific?

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Just a preliminary report.
They are not going to draw conclusions yet.

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Yes, the wounds point
because he fell down the stairs.

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But did they push her or did she fall?

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He has water in his lungs.
So she was alive when she fell into the water.

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But it's still too early to say
if it was an accident.

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The prison hearing
It will be tonight.

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- Tonight?
- Yes, it's already decided.

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We're going to need all day and night
to review your statement.

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The Scientist could have
more information later.

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Honestly, I don't believe
May that make a difference.

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We need to keep Tom detained,
to be able to investigate calmly.

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- We need four weeks.
- What they have is very weak.

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Yes, he admits fraud, but that
It is far from a premeditated murder.

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No matter how guilty you seem,
They need something more forceful.

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They have to convince the court
who have more than simple speculations.

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It's not like it used to be, Stark.

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00:22:55,680 --> 00:22:59,440
The court no longer accepts
automatically what the inspector says.

252
00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:06,240
I'm telling you what I need.
You have to help me get it.

253
00:23:06,360 --> 00:23:10,960
I'm not going to get four weeks
without a solid basis for that.

254
00:23:12,200 --> 00:23:16,720
Maybe it's better to ask for less
and then request an extension.

255
00:23:16,840 --> 00:23:18,720
But you're going to need something more solid...

256
00:23:18,840 --> 00:23:21,800
that a questionable interrogation,
without a lawyer present...

257
00:23:21,920 --> 00:23:26,080
and a forensic report that
It concludes absolutely nothing.

258
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,720
Add information
of Silja's research.

259
00:23:34,840 --> 00:23:39,560
Organize all verifiable material
on a timeline.

260
00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,240
He was with many women.

261
00:23:42,360 --> 00:23:45,160
sometimes,
relationships overlap.

262
00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:49,960
We know that he had several jobs
as an independent consultant.

263
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:53,520
The rest have been alone
lies and deceptions.

264
00:23:53,640 --> 00:23:55,600
Does anyone say it was violent?

265
00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,000
No, none of them mention that.

266
00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,160
Claire said the same thing.

267
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,120
He subjected her to a strong
psychological abuse, but never physical.

268
00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:12,800
Claire meets Tom.

269
00:24:12,920 --> 00:24:16,360
Silja meets him through Claire.

270
00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,240
Then he meets Sally there,
in autumn

271
00:24:21,360 --> 00:24:24,600
That's all we know
of their relationship.

272
00:24:24,720 --> 00:24:30,040
The family does not speak,
and everyone else has chosen to remain silent.

273
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:34,200
Sally's only sister,
Rose, the youngest,

274
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:38,320
She is a partner in the law firm
Nordholm and Partners.

275
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:39,920
So I hit a wall.

276
00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:44,040
They handed me over to an assistant,
then with another, and then with another.

277
00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,800
The message is clear: no one should
Say nothing while the case is open.

278
00:24:48,920 --> 00:24:53,240
But according to the Treasury,
Sally was extremely rich.

279
00:24:53,360 --> 00:24:55,240
And he had no heirs.

280
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,360
Does Tom get any of that?

281
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,600
They were not married.
He has no right to anything.

282
00:25:03,720 --> 00:25:05,520
So what's the motive?

283
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:10,240
If I killed her,
It definitely wasn't about money.

284
00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:19,080
Tom's Timeline
Does it go back to before 2008?

285
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,600
We couldn't find anything
about him before that.

286
00:25:27,120 --> 00:25:28,520
Isn't that a little strange?

287
00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,640
He is a classic manipulator.

288
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:42,920
And a...

289
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:54,720
We need to change the focus,
link it more with her death.

290
00:25:54,840 --> 00:25:57,880
Avoid the questions.
You have to push it more.

291
00:25:58,000 --> 00:25:59,600
OK.

292
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:03,040
But, that's not the point
Who first gives us his statement?

293
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,200
The point is that it manipulates
and it leads you astray.

294
00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:07,611
We need something more solid.

295
00:26:07,635 --> 00:26:10,240
I want a clear connection
with the murder.

296
00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:24,880
I'll take care of it myself.

297
00:26:58,360 --> 00:26:59,560
Hello, Tom.

298
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:04,040
I am the Chief Inspector
Morten Stark.

299
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:10,040
I have been observing
from a joint room.

300
00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:15,120
I would like to return to the point
where you and Andreas left it.

301
00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:20,600
Let's talk a little...

302
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:24,160
about what happened
the day Sally died.

303
00:27:30,880 --> 00:27:32,080
Good.

304
00:27:35,440 --> 00:27:40,000
If you knew how many we have
here every year.

305
00:27:40,120 --> 00:27:42,600
Did you say it was decades ago?

306
00:27:46,120 --> 00:27:50,240
I have a photo here.
It's from a tournament in 1996.

307
00:27:50,360 --> 00:27:51,960
That's him in the background.

308
00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:58,240
He, yes.

309
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:03,520
- Do you recognize him?
- Yes, but his name is not Tom.

310
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,840
We laughed a lot with him.

311
00:28:07,680 --> 00:28:11,120
-What is your name then?
- It's something like...

312
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,720
William?
Will...? William?

313
00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:22,760
No.

314
00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:26,200
Victor. It was Victor.

315
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:30,520
- Victor?
- Yes.

316
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:40,880
<i>And then she fell.</i>

317
00:28:46,960 --> 00:28:48,040
And...

318
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:56,000
She was lying there
at the foot of the stairs.

319
00:29:01,600 --> 00:29:04,640
- Did you turn around?
- Yes.

320
00:29:07,160 --> 00:29:10,080
I think I lost control.

321
00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:12,920
Did you hit her?

322
00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,000
No.

323
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,480
No, I lost control. I...

324
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,600
I think I got scared.

325
00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:25,000
What happened then?

326
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,280
<i>Go up the stairs...</i>

327
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,960
<i>I don't know how long.
I thought she was dead.</i>

328
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:35,200
- The preliminary forensic report.
- Thank you.

329
00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:38,360
Did you think about calling one?
ambulance or police?

330
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:43,040
I don't know.
It was chaos. Yes?

331
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:47,080
<i>Then I heard a sound from below.</i>

332
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:48,360
I went down to see.

333
00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:50,880
-And what did he see?
- I saw that he was gone.

334
00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,840
<i>But then I saw her outside.</i>

335
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,440
<i>- Next to the pool?
- Yes.</i>

336
00:30:07,080 --> 00:30:08,400
What happened then?

337
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:16,560
There was blood
everywhere, so I...

338
00:30:17,560 --> 00:30:20,200
I cleaned it.

339
00:30:22,480 --> 00:30:25,320
Then I got in the car and left.

340
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:31,360
I knew exactly what it would look like.
Of course I felt guilty.

341
00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:34,520
I shouldn't have screamed,
nor turn around suddenly like that.

342
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,520
I had to give him first aid,
and call an ambulance.

343
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:46,040
Okay, but let's get started
from the beginning again, Tom.

344
00:30:46,160 --> 00:30:48,680
And this time, I want more details.

345
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:51,520
You say they argued.
About what?

346
00:30:51,640 --> 00:30:53,880
It was an accident.
That's what I say.

347
00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:55,200
Tom...

348
00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:58,240
What did they argue about?

349
00:30:59,720 --> 00:31:00,920
What?

350
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:08,880
You know, I think I would like it
a lawyer after all.

351
00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:19,720
Yes.

352
00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:23,800
He started coming here.

353
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,440
I think your family
had moved nearby.

354
00:31:30,800 --> 00:31:34,920
He was one of those guys
that go unnoticed.

355
00:31:35,040 --> 00:31:36,634
A homeless man, let's say.

356
00:31:38,600 --> 00:31:40,960
But I felt a little sorry,

357
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:46,000
because he pretended to be
someone who was not.

358
00:31:50,080 --> 00:31:51,600
It was very noticeable.

359
00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,400
He was always alone.

360
00:31:56,480 --> 00:32:00,800
He said it wasn't
club member.

361
00:32:00,920 --> 00:32:05,200
Yes, he wanted to enter
in the youth team.

362
00:32:05,320 --> 00:32:07,240
He didn't pass the tests.

363
00:32:08,600 --> 00:32:11,080
So he stayed outside.

364
00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:17,000
But he still got together
with the boys.

365
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:20,320
The truth is, everything was
a little strange.

366
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,120
But I felt sorry for him.

367
00:32:25,240 --> 00:32:26,720
So I closed my eyes...

368
00:32:26,840 --> 00:32:29,680
when he sneaked in
with a fake ID.

369
00:32:30,960 --> 00:32:35,840
But then they started
to disappear things.

370
00:32:39,160 --> 00:32:42,800
At first, he defended him.

371
00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,080
But...

372
00:32:45,080 --> 00:32:49,560
In the end, I had to kick him out and...

373
00:32:50,920 --> 00:32:53,960
Yes. After that,
I never saw him again.

374
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:55,760
He never appeared again.

375
00:33:02,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Do you know anything about his family?

376
00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:08,240
No, I never saw him with anyone.

377
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:12,640
Good.

378
00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:15,240
 �Know someone who
Can you tell me more about him?

379
00:33:29,215 --> 00:33:31,020
Anything new?

380
00:33:31,689 --> 00:33:34,135
They haven't concluded anything.

381
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,480
They cannot rule out
let it be an accident.

382
00:33:44,160 --> 00:33:45,880
Now he wants a lawyer.

383
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,280
How do you interpret that?

384
00:33:58,120 --> 00:33:59,600
He knows how to play this game.

385
00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:03,320
He's buying time.

386
00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:00,246
I see why women
They find it so interesting.

387
00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:05,680
It's charming, really.
He sat down and looked at me intently...

388
00:35:07,280 --> 00:35:10,480
and with a smile,
He confessed to me that he committed fraud.

389
00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,000
But as if it weren't there
completely there...

390
00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:17,011
It was kind of disturbing.

391
00:35:19,960 --> 00:35:21,680
Do you think he does it on purpose?

392
00:35:21,800 --> 00:35:27,600
As a manipulation strategy...
or will he be acting?

393
00:35:27,720 --> 00:35:30,560
Or is it simply
empty inside?

394
00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,080
I don't know.

395
00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:35,200
Maybe that's why it's so dangerous.

396
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:48,400
Hello, Nina.
How did it go?

397
00:36:06,200 --> 00:36:07,680
What do you think about?

398
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:10,280
- Not at all.
- Lie.

399
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,360
- I know you better than you think.
- OK.

400
00:36:16,520 --> 00:36:19,253
What am I thinking about,
since you know me so much?

401
00:36:27,960 --> 00:36:31,415
Whatever you're thinking,
It's nonsense.

402
00:36:33,160 --> 00:36:35,240
And you're going to deny it when I tell you.

403
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:38,720
Go ahead then.

404
00:36:40,280 --> 00:36:43,040
You feel guilty for Silja.

405
00:36:44,240 --> 00:36:46,720
Do you think that if you had listened to him...

406
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:50,400
or you would have let her continue
working on history,

407
00:36:50,520 --> 00:36:52,200
This might never have happened.

408
00:36:54,960 --> 00:36:56,320
It is a useless thought.

409
00:36:57,600 --> 00:37:00,680
You can't think like that, Nora.

410
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,920
- I don't feel guilty.
- I told you, you deny it.

411
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:07,920
- No, it's just...
- I can actually see...

412
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,480
that behind that hard facade,

413
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:16,560
actually you can be
a very good person.

414
00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,209
In case it helps you feel better,

415
00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,950
sincerely to me
I didn't like Silja either.

416
00:38:33,720 --> 00:38:35,000
Good.

417
00:38:36,640 --> 00:38:38,133
Yes.

418
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:40,160
No, I'll talk to him.

419
00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:44,760
Yes.
Thank you for calling. Goodbye.

420
00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,320
Hello, Morten.
I talked to Nina.

421
00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,680
It didn't go well.
We only got two weeks.

422
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:14,280
Yes.

423
00:39:14,400 --> 00:39:16,240
Yes, I know.

424
00:39:18,800 --> 00:39:20,000
Yes.

425
00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:23,120
Yes.

426
00:39:28,960 --> 00:39:30,200
Did he hang up on you?

427
00:39:34,480 --> 00:39:35,680
Yes.

428
00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:46,320
2 weeks.

429
00:39:53,880 --> 00:39:57,360
- So it didn't go well for them?
- No.

430
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:08,680
Die?

431
00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:16,240
I haven't seen you like this in a long time.

432
00:40:19,440 --> 00:40:22,880
Yes, but everything will be fine.

433
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:31,400
You can handle this.

434
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:38,080
Yes.
I don't know why, but...

435
00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:41,640
This case...

436
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:44,920
There is something...

437
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:52,440
- Can I say something?
- No.

438
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:55,000
Please don't.

439
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:58,360
Good.

440
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:37,160
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